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They're passing on my series, here's what they said: "Spirit Warriors is too traditional, too central, not unique enough." They said Cartoon Network only wants shows that are "unexpected, edgy, left of center, with random humor."

Bruce Faulconer is shocked, he told me he was sure they would say yes, especially given our fan support online. I'm not sure what to do now, I'm just sorry I let everyone down. :(

-Jeff
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Syrupfck Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ever stop to think that they might be right? Being different sells. People don't want tropes or stereotypes, they want to have stuff that sends a better message than 'friendship triumphs over all'. Having a very, very narrow cast, in comparison to shows like say, Motorcity, is not helping your case.
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2013
Maybe, but the number 1 thing a network wants is a successful series, regardless of it's style or classification. The music composer of Dragon Ball Z, the creator of Flapjack, and thousands of fans believe this series would succeed on TV, so I figured a network like CN would give us a chance. :)
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Syrupfck Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Again, I doubt that viewers want to have the same generic kind of hodge-podge kungfu inspired story. Maybe have a protagonist who is actually Asian for a story like that, instead of some white kid with an odd name?

Plus, the demographic you should be aiming for includes teenagers and, to a lesser extent, young adults. There are plenty of fans of shows like Regular Show and Adventure Time, who are in their 20s. The reason these shows are popular is because the underlying messages in them are applicable to real life. We're not living in a world where friends are the most important thing. The individual is just as - if not more, important, and as individuals (and ESPECIALLY young adults and teenagers) we can be insecure in our loneliness. Whether it's about our appearance (showing that a short, nerdy guy like Tino can't get a girl is not helping!!) or about what the future holds, or about anything else really. That's when quotes like this: [link] really prove why shows like Adventure Time are popular.

And maybe it would help if you had some kind of artistic training/talent, as opposed to just writing and commissioning?

Look, I'm not trying to bring you down, mate. It's just that there are certain 'flaws' in your story you really need to tend to. If you can't take critique, or change your show because you're coddling it too much, I doubt that you can make it in terms of getting this on air.
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013
Okay, thanks for the critique. :)
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AyumiSpender Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013
Don't be surprised. Really.
I haven't watched Cartoon Network in years because all of the new stuff they show on there seems like total crap to me and I can't think of a decent show on there anymore.
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
I know, but it's still frustrating. I put so much into that meeting. :(
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AyumiSpender Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
While it's not really the best to say or that it would help, I think the only real thing to say here is I think you were born way too late.
Most great minds with their ideas or technology or art... or anything for that matter isn't wanted these days.
People want dumbed-down, simplified, and "edgy" material that flash in your eyes to go "oooh this is so cool!" than anything that actually was given thought.
You can see that in everything these days. It's really sad, and makes me wonder what the future holds.
So far, I'm not liking it.
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Maybe, but I'm not giving up yet. I actually just started a large blitz of contacting several companies that are looking for new material. Some of them are comic publishers, so I may have to start with that before getting Spirit Warriors on TV. :)
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AyumiSpender Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
That's not bad actually as many ideas started as comics/graphic novels/manga before hitting it big.
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
Yeah that's what I figured, and so many more comics get published than TV shows are produced, so I've got a much better shot at that. :)
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LightningPig Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012
My friends sang a song for a concert, it went something like this...

"You can do it! You can do it! You can do it if you really try! You can beat the challenge! Beat the challenge! If you really try~!
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012
Thanks. :)
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Yoruva-Kotenox Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
:(

But maybe the series can be refurnished, like adding the elemets they want as seasoning.
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
Maybe. :(
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SilverWing4 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
hey its cool bro! keep up your work and people will vouch for you and your series!
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
Thanks, I hope you're right. :)
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GumNutBunny Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2012   General Artist
don't give up just yet come right back at them don't let them say no to you you can do this i support you all the way maybe make the fan base even bigger and right back at them this show is sure to be waaaay better than what they are thinking don't change it to what they want make them want what you have please don't give up you will never lets us down i'm sure every one here will agree with me
we are all cheering you on!!!!
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2012
Thanks, that's really kind of you. :hug:
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GumNutBunny Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2012   General Artist
^^ np good luck
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JayZeroSnake Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012
And what's wrong with being a little "central?" Too much of that unexpected, edgy, random humor type of show pushes back the diversity a bit.

But don't give up, Jeff. You haven't let us down. We know you're working hard on something great, and CN forgot to wipe their glasses.
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012
Thanks. :)
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Mununsah Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012   Traditional Artist
I say " FUCK TELEVISION AND FUCK CARTOON NETWORK"
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monstahomies Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012
NOOO.
I AM NEVER WATCHING CARTOON NETWORK AGAIN!NEVER NEVER.The problem is is that all the new cartoons are to much like adult cartoons make no since and dont teach children anything usually in cartoons someone would learn a lesson but not anymore -.- curse cartoon network.
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Megane-Whim Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Sick Ms. Hancock on them!
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012
Hehe, maybe I will. =D
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Megane-Whim Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Don't forget to video it...Might be the next youtube hit :D
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012
Haha, anything with Ms. Hancock in it always gets lots of hits. =D
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Megane-Whim Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
lol girl power!
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012
Haha, I know. =D
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Megane-Whim Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012  Student Digital Artist
^^ If Nickolodeon doesn't accept, try The Hub.
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012
Good idea, I'll try with them. :)
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Spake759 Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
you didn't let us down. Cartoon Network is the one that let us down with their short-sightedness and wearing their ideology on their sleeves.
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NinjaZombie5692 Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Cartoon tv channels these days wouldn't know a good show idea if it came and bit them in the butt. CN has slowly been following Nick and Disney into the downward spiral to stupidity and worthlessness. Children today are missing out on shows like the ones that we all grew up with (and we all turned out just fine). The things I see on tv now scare the crap out of me. Spirit Warriors would be a great step for tv to start getting back to cartoons that are actually worth watching. But the fact you got to the point that you did was an achievement in itself. I will continue to support Spirit Warriors and CN can go suck some giant dinosaur balls.
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MrsSkaggs777 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2012
Its okay. You didn't let us down Jeff. You tried and that's what counts right. Better luck next time deary.
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012
Thanks.
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MrsSkaggs777 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2012
No big deal. We are always here for you. Us artists gotta stick together.
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012
Thanks, I appreciate it. :)
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MWD1 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2012
Let us down? Are you kidding!! What you have made here is a Hundred times better than some of the shows on CN. Those idiots have no idea what they are doing!!

What ever happens, you will always have all of the loyal fans you've made on this site alone. And if it does become a TV series then by God you will make history!!

I wish you luck for the future. And remember, every journey has a few bumps in the road.
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012
Thank you so much. :)
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masako123 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2012  Hobbyist
don't feel bad, you didn't let us down, cartoon network did.

i'll try to brighten your spirits with this random fan art : [link] (i seriously can't match colours worth a cent)

don't give up, we'll all be here every step of the way!

go go go SPIRIT WARRIORS!
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012
Thanks very much for the fanart, that's really nice of you. :)
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masako123 Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Hobbyist
no problem, ^^

spirit warriors is amazing!
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ravenf6 Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012
I'm sorry to hear about that.

Don't feel that this is the end, if you go down, you get back up and try again. Sometimes it takes many times and many failures before you succeed.

I've seen a number of your works, even before I joined DA good and proper, and there's definitely potential for it.

Just remember: when one door closes, another one opens.
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012
Thanks, I hope you're right.
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TheEliCash Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
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CoroneostheHero Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
How could they deny your amazing series? It's way better than anything else they have on now a days.

Maybe you should try Nickelodeon?
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2012
That's a good idea, hopefully I can get a meeting with Nickelodeon.
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CoroneostheHero Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
We're all wishing you the best of luck.
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SpiritWarriors Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012
Thanks, I really appreciate it. :)
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Katsuya-urusaki Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
wow really >.< don't give up kay ^w^
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